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# How a Porn Addiction App Scaled to $250K MRR in 4 Months

## From Zero to App Idea: Understanding the Genesis of Quitter

### Identifying a High Pain Point in a Normalized Market
* Porn addiction is a significant issue, especially with the rise of platforms like OnlyFans.
* "Porn is normalized no one knows about the side effects."
* Men are often hesitant to discuss porn addiction openly.
* "You don't go to your boy and be like I'm addicted to porn man how do you help me."
* There was a gap in the market for a Gen Z-focused solution, unlike existing apps targeting older demographics like Covenant Eyes.
* "Covenant eyes is another one and they target a lot of older men gotcha um so their demographic is 35 and up there wasn't anything for Gen Z there's nothing gen Z right."

### Leveraging Personal Experience and Market Observation
* Founders were in the self-improvement space and aware of "nofap" and semen retention benefits.
* Observed the lack of apps specifically designed for quitting porn.
* Recognized the market gap and potential.
* "There's no apps on this let me build an app."
* Competitor analysis revealed Brain Buddy, but it lacked marketing and innovation.
* "There was one competitor and it was called brain body I believe and the thing is about brain bodyy they've been in the market for about 14 years and they have zero marketing efforts."

### Building an MVP: Starting with a Simple Timer and Community
* Initial product was fundamentally a timer for tracking "nofap streaks."
* "Fundamentally um it was mainly just a timer at first."
* Evolved to include a community for peer support and shared goals.
* "Then we leveled it up to be a community so everyone that downloads the app can chat with each other and help each other out."
* Added features like breathing exercises and a "panic button."
* "We also have a bunch of breathing exercises we have a panic button every time you're really really tempted to Jer off like vibrate your phone is like wake up you have goals."

## Onboarding Psychology: Designing a High-Converting User Journey

### Crafting a 12-Page Quiz for Self-Diagnosis and Intent
* Onboarding starts with a quiz to assess the user's need for the app.
* "Initially in the on boarding you go through a um like a quiz to see if you actually need the app so you go through about a 12 page quiz."
* Questions are "oddly specific" to gauge addiction severity and patterns.
* "Has your exposure got more and more like Twisted in a way it's like how long have you been addicted when way you're exposed to this blah blah blah blah blah."
* Quiz acts as a psychological reinforcer, prompting self-reflection and acceptance of the issue.
* "The quiz is a reinforcer that you that's I'm asking is it more of like a psychological like mental like getting them to even ask themselves that question."
* High completion rate of the onboarding flow (99%) due to high user intent.
* "Mix panel onboarding stat like literally 12 different steps it's like 99 99 98% people like no one's falling off."

### Symptom Selection, Social Proof, and Value Proposition Before Paywall
* After the quiz, users select symptoms they experience.
* "You go to a symptom view so where you can click which symptoms you have so like low Drive no longer interested in girls Etc."
* Testimonials and reviews are displayed to provide social proof.
* "It goes to another page where it shows like testimonials from people that have used our app."
* Side effects of porn and benefits of quitting are highlighted.
* "It goes to another slide where it says all the side effects of consuming porn and then all the benefits of quitting."
* App Store review request is strategically placed before the paywall for ASO.
* "Then we asked them for a for a review so we Rank kir and ASO so App Store optimization."
* Paywall emphasizes self-investment and affordability.
* "Then we hit with a pay wall and it says it's time to invest in yourself and then using their name it's like hey Alex it's time to invest in yourself hit with the payall now it's like okay look for just 20 bucks or $12.99 a month I can quit porn forever."
* Product features are intentionally not explained in detail until after the paywall.
* "Through distribution methods and App Store screenshots they'll see what the app looks like or organic content influencers posting organic ugc ads Etc anything we're pushing shows the app a lot of the times."

### Post-Paywall Experience: Streak Tracking, Community, and Tools

* Users are immediately taken to the app features after payment.
* Streak counter prominently displayed to motivate users.
* "They get jumped into the app they can start their streak from day one so look the time is C uh ticking up saying look you've been sober for one day two days 3 days four days."
* Milestone badges for streak achievements.
* "They get like a little special badge every time they reach a new Milestone."
* To-do list to encourage feature engagement and retention.
* "We have a to-do list so they can Journal why they want to quit make a post in the community and start getting you know building some habits on the app."
* Community feature for peer support and breaking down barriers.
* "It's a community pretty much yeah in and of itself so they can all talk to each other ex and that's where I was talking about the walls being broken down of actually communicating with your issues and getting help from each other."
* "Panic button" for urges, linking to community or journaling.
* "Also why the panic button after you the panic button panic button will push you to the community or journaling as well."
* "Plant your seed" feature for visual progress tracking of streaks.
* "We have also like a plant so like if you you can click plant your seed and then as your streak increases it grows from a like a little sapling into a tree."
* AI therapist "Melus" for personalized advice and support.
* "One of our more viral features is like melus which is like a AI is what is is a AI therapist so goes with sorry goes with the back end but you speak to melas and it gives you advice."
* Resource page with articles explaining porn addiction and its effects.
* "We have like a full page of resources so a bunch of Articles like break down everything about what porn addiction is like all the psychology behind it."

### Why a Hard Paywall Works: Commitment and Perceived Value
* Freemium model was tested but resulted in low engagement.
* "We tend to get the question of why we're not premium as well cuz we're hard pay wall and I think it's important to note the fact that we did try that but the activity on the app dropped significantly no one used the app when it was free."
* Hard paywall drives user commitment and higher perceived value.
* "Everyone used it when it was a hard pay wall and so it goes into that whole onboarding scene and scenario of intent to buy and I think half the battle is when purchase they're all right I'm doing this to quit."
* Undeniable data that paying for something increases its perceived value.
* "There's undeniable data that if you pay for something you value it more."

## Growth Hacking: Influencer Marketing and Viral Content

### Influencer Marketing as a Bootstrapping Strategy
* Initial growth strategy focused on influencer marketing.
* "Influencers that was the thesis I built."
* Targeted influencers in religious and fitness niches initially, then expanded to self-help.
* "I'd find creators um in the religious and fitness Niche Fitness was more like think trickle down Andrew Tate like very self-help aggro."
* Paid for consulting calls with religious creators to pitch the app.
* "I paid like 50 bucks to do a one-on-one Consulting call with a religious Creator and I pitched him and he's like all right let's do it."
* Paid influencers on a CPM basis, aiming for $2-$3 CPM.
* "We were're paying $3 per thousand views so we're getting a million views."
* Negotiated view guarantees and paid bonuses for high performance.
* "View guarantee we're like on average if you post a video about this you get 250,000 views so that one video posted on Instagram and Tik Tok is half a million views okay so for four videos right that's 2 million views we'll pay you 4 grand 20% up front."
* Contract structure: 20% upfront payment, remainder after contract completion and Apple payout.
* "I would basically only pay 20% up front and the rest of the money would come after the contract was over and after got paid by Apple."
* Leverage influencer content as paid ads for further reach.
* "We started leveraging paid ads using that stuff as paid ads."

### Viral Video Impact and Performance-Based Pay
* Viral video on TikTok generated $100K in 65 hours.
* "We went a video went viral we did 40K in a day and across like a 65h hour period we did 100K in sales."
* Performance-based pay structure for influencers and potentially UGC creators.
* "View rewards where you pay people based off every thousand views they get retroactively."
* Focus on influencers who resonate with the brand and target audience.
* "A lot of it is do they resonate with the brand does it resonate with their content."

### Outreach Strategy: Paid Promos and Verified Accounts
* Initial outreach via DMs, consulting calls, and emails.
* "What I usually do is DM at the bat I dm' everyone just to have that out there they had to pay consult called that was not like 500 bucks I did it some I probably wasted 150 bucks."
* First outreach message emphasizes "paid promo" for higher click-through rates.
* "The first word in your Outreach message is paid promo."
* Use of a verified brand account for outreach to improve inbox visibility.
* "Run it through our quitter account um and Alex was very heavy on that the beginning I didn't realize this but if you have a verified account it bumps it in the inbox."
* Avoid disclosing payment amounts in initial text messages, prefer calls for negotiation.
* "I never tell them how much I'd willing to pay them via text okay I always VI do it via call because the moment I say four videos a month this and that they run away."
* Target niches based on pain points and value systems (religion, fitness, self-help).
* "Religion it's against God Fitness is low testosterone no gains Etc self-help is like SE retention so it's what's the value of quitting porn it's not that you stop jerking off it's that you have higher energy you talk to girls."

### Contractual Agreements and Usage Rights
* Contracts include usage rights to repurpose influencer content as ads.
* "We're basically in the contract allowing to run their stuff as ads for as long as our contracts with them so um it's piggybacking."
* View guarantees are incorporated into contracts to ensure performance.
* "View guarantee meaning I'll pay you $1,500 if you get what three like what is it no I'll pay you it's like hey Brett look you usually get 100,000 views a video um and what we'll do is you give me four videos a month minimum for 500,000 views minimum per month and I'll pay you $1500."
* Flexibility to adjust contracts if view guarantees are not met.
* "I say in the contract if it comes to a point of you can't hit the views we'll PR rate your contract okay so we'll give you 700 out of a th000 yeah because you have 700,000 views or whatever."

## Tech Stack and Design Principles

### Minimalist Tech Stack for Rapid Development
* Swift for iOS app development.
* ChatGPT for coding assistance and feature implementation.
* "Swift chat GPT Firebase the real simple what is Firebase so it's a database so you can store like all the community features are stored what are you using chbt for just to help me build features that I haven't learned myself to code basically."
* Firebase for backend database and community features.
* Figma for UI/UX design.
* Mixpanel for onboarding and funnel analytics.
* Superwall for paywall A/B testing and management.
* "Super wall super wall we use for payall so we can AB tests on the Fly and test different pricing different designs and then also monitor the results."

### Design Philosophy: Premium Feel and Simplicity
* Black color scheme to convey premium product impression.
* "It's all black we just wanted to give the impression that it's a premium product and if something's premium people are more willing to pay for it."
* Simple, refined design with good fonts and colors for enjoyable user experience.
* "You just need to make everything really simple refined and use good fonts and colors and just make that whole experience enjoyable."
* DM Sans Google Font used throughout the app.
* "What font do you use TM sounds it's Google font what is it DM SS is that's like the whole product yeah that font yeah."
* "Multiples of four" principle for padding and spacing for clean UI.
* "We use a a principle where we only use multiples of four so the same size as the text like the text size would be a multiple of four so it be 12 16 18 terms of the pading it will follow the same principle so it would do about eight pixels away from the border."

### Automation and Team Management Tools
* Google Sheets for influencer lead tracking.
* Fiverr for finding VAs (Virtual Assistants).
* Groy platform for influencer management, contracts, and payments.
* "To manage them actually we use a platform called groy um so I actually think that the developer used to work at wop really uh Solomon I think we talked about this the other day yeah so you do groy for INF grow basically helps manage our entire like from we haven't filled of forms keep them in an otion database but once they get on board to grow how we pay them contracts you pay them through grow yeah."
* Agree.com for contract management.
* Zappier for email automation triggered by Notion contract status.
* "We have an email automation just to zappier once we confirm they sign the contract we check it off in notion they get an onboarding email."

## Future Growth and Brand Building

### Focus on Brand Awareness and Viral Marketing
* Shifting strategy towards brand awareness and viral stunts.
* "Now we're we're thinking about just stunts because that one video with Jeremiah that reached $100,000 in a day that showed us how valuable virality is."
* "Our goal right now is awareness Tak risks yeah you need and that brand Association yeah."
* "Project Liquid Death" inspiration for disruptive marketing.
* "Project liquid Def and I'm sure you're aware like they just sell water but they what1 million do billion dollar how do they get to that point through great branding and you know all these stunts that they do."
* Considering IRL stunts at porn conventions and provocative social media content.
* "Imagine you found like all the child Predators living in New York City and targeted them with like goo yeah that would get part with Vitality on thatal like that'd be crazy."
* "Quitter in talks to purchase PornHub" tweet idea for viral attention.
* "We just lined up a tweet where it's going to be like quitter in talks to purchase PornHub and and shut it down everyone be like who the hell is quitter yeah exactly but people like it and be like finally thank God someone's taking action."

### Expanding Marketing Channels and Partnerships
* Scaling influencer marketing and optimizing CPM-based deals.
* Expanding into organic content marketing and SEO.
* Increasing paid ad spend and optimizing ROI.
* Exploring partnerships with churches and dioceses.
* Considering partnerships with larger creators and podcasts (e.g., Theo Von, George Janko).
* "Larger Partnerships like theovon um cool just like ad to his podcast or something yep like George jenko like mail podcast yeah."

### Long-Term Vision: Authority Building and High-Ticket Offers
* Aiming to build authority through research studies and scientific validation.
* "The next step is involving things of that nature where you go do close studies you figure out everything and then you involve the scientist neur neurologist it's true research study interesting."
* Potential for high-ticket offers and one-on-one support in the future.
* "Then that's I think when you get to the next level where it's like you could have one-on-one support like you could have high ticket offers."
* "I think also making the app more customizable."

## Actionable Advice for Aspiring App Entrepreneurs

### Validate with Reddit and Product Hunt
* Use Reddit to validate product ideas in niche communities.
* "My go to market and it's very standard but it's just Reddit because Reddit has every sub Niche every Community you can ever imagine so if you're launching a product chances are you'll find a niche that you can serve to on Reddit and that's how you quickly validate a product."
* Product Hunt for early user feedback and product rating.
* "Another good one is product hunt where people like democratize and push a new product out in the world and people rate it and review it um and it's a great way to get early users."

### Test Different Marketing Channels and Iterate
* Don't rely solely on one marketing channel.
* "Just because I failed on one channel doesn't mean another channel will fail so do some Rous testing."
* Test influencers, organic content, paid ads, and other strategies.
* "There's not one way to do it there's like 10 different ways you could be doing this and I think you have to just keep testing one does it work yes or no move to the next move to the next move to the next."
* Tailor marketing strategy to product and niche.
* "Look at your product like for example a lot of these AI study tools there's not influencers you can partner with because it's so saturated with theme Pages."

### Focus on Onboarding and Conversion Optimization First
* Optimize onboarding flow before investing heavily in marketing.
* "Optimize all that first then throw money into Facebook ads throw your two Facebook ads see how that converts."
* Onboarding is the "single most important thing in consumer apps."
* "I think it's the single most important thing in consumer apps."
* Study successful app onboarding flows for inspiration.
* "We just studied the top apps that were making the most money and what we did is we screenshot every little bit of experience put it all in a figma line it all up and be like okay look all these apps are doing this this this they're making 5 million 6 million what if we ripped that strategy and just applied it to our Niche."

### Bootstrap Smartly and Prioritize Revenue Generation
* Bootstrap with a small initial investment and reinvest revenue.
* "Bootstrapped off of three grand and then now we hit 250 this month."
* Focus on revenue generation to fuel further growth.
* "Turning $1 into $4 that that's the that's what we're doing."
* Stay bootstrapped as long as possible.
* "Stay bootstrapped oh okay and I definitely to be honest for bootst I'd have some money up front first I wouldn't go Bost to the war with Z i' try to get some birth day money or get a loan from your parents or whatever to get the B rolling because it's very very hard to do marke Z."

### Team Up and Don't Go It Alone
* Find a co-founder with complementary skills.
* "Find someone's good at marketing you do the upside you do the product you do the onboarding you do the pricing optimization right and you'll go you'll go a long way."
* "Don't do this journey alone like I could have not done it alone honestly like failing for months and weeks is just not a great experience."
* Partner up for faster growth and shared workload.
* "Take 50% of the profits of something much bigger and I say this Discord is the best place to find people that you're looking for."

### Action over Perfection and Procrastination
* Launch an MVP quickly and iterate based on user feedback.
* "Just Launch something that's good enough that you're happy with and then Target communities with inside your Niche."
* Don't overcomplicate things; focus on core value proposition.
* "People over complicate it but it's not really that hard."
* Avoid procrastination and just take action; "just go do it."
* "If you have an app idea and you have a way to do it just build it right you don't have to be exceptional just to start my first app failed I'm pretty sure his first app like just go do it don't like be perfect."

### Monitor Metrics and Iterate Continuously
* Track onboarding funnel metrics using Mixpanel.
* "Look at our oning and just revamp it towards your Niche because we've perfected it I mean you've seen my mix panel that you can't really get much better than that it's only 99s across the bo."
* AB test paywalls and pricing using Superwall.
* "Super wall super wall we use for payall so we can AB tests on the Fly and test different pricing different designs and then also monitor the results."
* Collect user feedback and iterate on product and marketing.
* "Whenever someone deletes the app or cancels we ask them what they would want changed and basically we've set up a system where we just have this feed of feedback that we can actually Implement."

### Replicate Success and Study Competitors
* Copy successful distribution strategies from competitor apps.
* "Find the closest app to you let's say let's say you're my fitness power right or let's say your C you're looking at my fitness P distribution okay look they make 15 million a month 150 million a year how do I copy their same distribution strategy."
* "Don't reinvent the wheel" - leverage proven strategies.
* "Don't procrastinate if you have an app idea and you have a way to do it just build it right you don't have to be exceptional just to start my first app failed I'm pretty sure his first app like just go do it don't like be perfect like you don't have the perfect words on the DM like just go send DMS to 2,000 influencers and see who responds and the next 2,000 change it up."

### Focus on Value and Solve a Real Problem
* Solve a clear pain point and make users "problem aware."
* "Solve a problem and if you can't solve a problem make someone problem aware and then solve that problem that's the marketing lingo we left right there there we go."
* Clearly communicate the value proposition in onboarding and marketing.
* "You always want to sell the outcome the instate not the actual features themselves it's not important."
* "Just have a good Vision that you want to like have a problem you want to solve and pitch that well and then find the Right audience and then your product will be flying with the shop like it's not that hard people over complicate it but it's not really that hard."

### Optimize for Virality and Brand Building
* Virality is a powerful growth lever; optimize for viral content.
* "If we optimize for that we should be you know you know Luca Nets you ever heard of lucet py penguins he he was the CMO of Jael blasters which is the number one selling toy America and that's all they did was just challenges like they did like the gel blasters like driveby challenge you just like stay to drive by."
* Brand building is crucial for long-term scalability.
* "If you really want to scale up it's all about brand awareness exactly and just getting that word in people's heads to the point where they if they ever associate you know I have a problem I need to go to that thing."
* Consider "IRL stunts" and provocative marketing for brand visibility.
* "I think if we pull IRL stunts like we go to these porn star uh IRL conventions and we just throw purple paint everywhere we're reing the purple by the way if you want to put we're becoming a like purple La basically like anti- orange right why is everything Orange in that industry I have no idea no idea it's like every restaurant's red so every one of those sites are typically orange But but so that's why purple just because it's the opposite of."

### Mobile App Specific Tips
* Focus on iOS development first for higher monetization potential.
* "Definitely stay away from Android because that makes more money uh sorry less money Apple Apple users pay way more so if you want to test an MVP fast like build."
* Offer a "skip account creation" option to reduce onboarding friction.
* "We have that offlow because if they make an account one they're more dedicated and probably will convert at the end of the payall and secondly we had their email so we can send them updates and discounts whenever we want and of course the skip button because if you force a hard authentication wall a lot of people are just going to be like [ __ ] this uninstall the app and they've gone forever so that big skip button like reduces that a lot."
* Aim for a price point around $10/month or $40/year for subscriptions.
* "I'd stay around $10 a month or $40 a year is is like The Sweet Spot any more than that people would be second guessing themselves but if it's cheap enough for them to impulse buy then you have a winning product winning price."
* Show the app in marketing videos for better conversion.
* "If you're going into marketing show the app in the video mhm I think Zach said this as well if you don't show the app you're not going to make as much money."

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Mar 1, 12:56pm

How a Porn Addiction App Scaled to $250K MRR in 4 Months

From Zero to App Idea: Understanding the Genesis of Quitter

Identifying a High Pain Point in a Normalized Market

Porn addiction is a significant issue, especially with the rise of platforms like OnlyFans. The problem is normalized, and many men hesitate to discuss it openly. There was a gap in the market for a Gen Z-focused solution, unlike existing apps targeting older demographics like Covenant Eyes. The founders recognized this need and decided to build an app to address it.

Leveraging Personal Experience and Market Observation

The founders were in the self-improvement space and aware of "nofap" and semen retention benefits. They observed the lack of apps specifically designed for quitting porn and recognized the market gap. Competitor analysis revealed Brain Buddy, but it lacked marketing and innovation. This insight drove the founders to build their app, starting with a simple timer for tracking "nofap streaks."

Building an MVP: Starting with a Simple Timer and Community

The initial product was a timer for tracking streaks. It evolved to include a community for peer support and shared goals. Features like breathing exercises and a "panic button" were added to help users stay on track.

Onboarding Psychology: Designing a High-Converting User Journey

Crafting a 12-Page Quiz for Self-Diagnosis and Intent

Onboarding starts with a quiz to assess the user's need for the app. The quiz is "oddly specific" to gauge addiction severity and patterns. It acts as a psychological reinforcer, prompting self-reflection and acceptance of the issue. The high completion rate of the onboarding flow (99%) is due to high user intent.

Symptom Selection, Social Proof, and Value Proposition Before Paywall

After the quiz, users select symptoms they experience. Testimonials and reviews are displayed to provide social proof. The side effects of porn and benefits of quitting are highlighted. An App Store review request is strategically placed before the paywall for App Store optimization. The paywall emphasizes self-investment and affordability, with product features explained in detail only after the paywall.

Post-Paywall Experience: Streak Tracking, Community, and Tools

Users are immediately taken to the app features after payment. A streak counter is prominently displayed to motivate users. Milestone badges for streak achievements and a to-do list encourage feature engagement and retention. The community feature allows peer support and breaking down barriers. The "panic button" links to the community or journaling. The "plant your seed" feature visually tracks streaks, and an AI therapist "Melus" provides personalized advice and support. A resource page with articles explains porn addiction and its effects.

Why a Hard Paywall Works: Commitment and Perceived Value

A freemium model was tested but resulted in low engagement. A hard paywall drives user commitment and higher perceived value. There is undeniable data that paying for something increases its perceived value.

Growth Hacking: Influencer Marketing and Viral Content

Influencer Marketing as a Bootstrapping Strategy

Initial growth strategy focused on influencer marketing. The founders targeted influencers in religious and fitness niches initially, then expanded to self-help. They paid for consulting calls with religious creators to pitch the app and negotiated view guarantees and bonuses for high performance. Influencer content was leveraged as paid ads for further reach.

Viral Video Impact and Performance-Based Pay

A viral video on TikTok generated $100K in 65 hours. The performance-based pay structure for influencers and potentially UGC creators focuses on influencers who resonate with the brand and target audience.

Outreach Strategy: Paid Promos and Verified Accounts

Initial outreach was via DMs, consulting calls, and emails. The first outreach message emphasized "paid promo" for higher click-through rates. A verified brand account improved inbox visibility. Payment amounts were not disclosed in initial text messages, preferring calls for negotiation. Niches were targeted based on pain points and value systems.

Contractual Agreements and Usage Rights

Contracts included usage rights to repurpose influencer content as ads. View guarantees were incorporated into contracts to ensure performance. Flexibility to adjust contracts if view guarantees were not met.

Tech Stack and Design Principles

Minimalist Tech Stack for Rapid Development

Swift was used for iOS app development, and ChatGPT for coding assistance and feature implementation. Firebase was used for the backend database and community features. Figma was used for UI/UX design. Mixpanel was used for onboarding and funnel analytics, and Superwall for paywall A/B testing and management.

Design Philosophy: Premium Feel and Simplicity

A black color scheme conveyed a premium product impression. The design was simple, refined, and used good fonts and colors for an enjoyable user experience. The DM Sans Google Font was used throughout the app. The "multiples of four" principle was used for padding and spacing for a clean UI.

Automation and Team Management Tools

Google Sheets was used for influencer lead tracking. Fiverr was used for finding VAs. Groy platform was used for influencer management, contracts, and payments. Agree.com was used for contract management. Zappier was used for email automation triggered by Notion contract status.

Future Growth and Brand Building

Focus on Brand Awareness and Viral Marketing

The strategy shifted towards brand awareness and viral stunts. Inspiration was drawn from "Project Liquid Death" for disruptive marketing. IRL stunts at porn conventions and provocative social media content were considered. A tweet idea about Quitter purchasing PornHub was planned for viral attention.

Expanding Marketing Channels and Partnerships

Influencer marketing was scaled, and CPM-based deals were optimized. Organic content marketing and SEO were expanded. Paid ad spend was increased, and ROI was optimized. Partnerships with churches and dioceses were explored, along with larger creators and podcasts.

Long-Term Vision: Authority Building and High-Ticket Offers

The aim was to build authority through research studies and scientific validation. High-ticket offers and one-on-one support were considered for the future. The app was planned to be more customizable.

Actionable Advice for Aspiring App Entrepreneurs

Validate with Reddit and Product Hunt

Reddit was used to validate product ideas in niche communities. Product Hunt was used for early user feedback and product rating.

Test Different Marketing Channels and Iterate

Different marketing channels were tested, including influencers, organic content, and paid ads. The marketing strategy was tailored to the product and niche.

Focus on Onboarding and Conversion Optimization First

Onboarding flow was optimized before investing heavily in marketing. Successful app onboarding flows were studied for inspiration.

Bootstrap Smartly and Prioritize Revenue Generation

The app was bootstrapped with a small initial investment, and revenue was reinvested. The focus was on revenue generation to fuel further growth.

Team Up and Don't Go It Alone

A co-founder with complementary skills was found. Partnering up allowed for faster growth and shared workload.

Action over Perfection and Procrastination

An MVP was launched quickly and iterated based on user feedback. The focus was on the core value proposition, and procrastination was avoided.

Monitor Metrics and Iterate Continuously

Onboarding funnel metrics were tracked using Mixpanel. Paywalls and pricing were A/B tested using Superwall. User feedback was collected and implemented.

Replicate Success and Study Competitors

Successful distribution strategies from competitor apps were copied. Proven strategies were leveraged.

Focus on Value and Solve a Real Problem

A clear pain point was solved, and users were made "problem aware." The value proposition was clearly communicated in onboarding and marketing.

Optimize for Virality and Brand Building

Virality was optimized for, and brand building was crucial for long-term scalability. IRL stunts and provocative marketing were considered for brand visibility.

Mobile App Specific Tips

iOS development was focused on first for higher monetization potential. A "skip account creation" option reduced onboarding friction. A price point around $10/month or $40/year was aimed for subscriptions. The app was shown in marketing videos for better conversion.

Mar 1, 12:56pm
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Mar 1, 12:58pm

How a Porn Addiction App Scaled to $250K MRR in 4 Months

From Zero to App Idea: Understanding the Genesis of Quitter

Identifying a High Pain Point in a Normalized Market

Porn addiction is a significant issue, especially with the rise of platforms like OnlyFans. The problem is normalized, and many men hesitate to discuss it openly. The founders recognized that men often avoid talking about porn addiction with friends, highlighting a need for discreet solutions. They identified a gap in the market for a Gen Z-focused solution, unlike existing apps targeting older demographics like Covenant Eyes, which primarily serves men aged 35 and up. This insight drove the founders to build an app tailored to the younger generation.

Leveraging Personal Experience and Market Observation

The founders were already involved in the self-improvement space and were aware of the benefits of "nofap" and semen retention. They observed the lack of apps specifically designed for quitting porn and recognized the market gap. Competitor analysis revealed Brain Buddy, but it lacked marketing efforts and innovation despite being in the market for 14 years. This insight drove the founders to build their app, starting with a simple timer for tracking "nofap streaks."

Building an MVP: Starting with a Simple Timer and Community

The initial product was fundamentally a timer for tracking streaks. It evolved to include a community feature for peer support and shared goals. Users could chat with each other and help each other out, fostering a sense of camaraderie. Additional features like breathing exercises and a "panic button" were added. The panic button vibrates the user's phone and reminds them of their goals when they feel tempted, providing immediate support.

Onboarding Psychology: Designing a High-Converting User Journey

Crafting a 12-Page Quiz for Self-Diagnosis and Intent

Onboarding starts with a 12-page quiz to assess the user's need for the app. The questions are "oddly specific" to gauge addiction severity and patterns, such as asking if the user's exposure to porn has become more twisted over time. The quiz acts as a psychological reinforcer, prompting self-reflection and acceptance of the issue. The high completion rate of the onboarding flow (99%) is due to high user intent, as indicated by Mixpanel analytics.

Symptom Selection, Social Proof, and Value Proposition Before Paywall

After the quiz, users select symptoms they experience, such as low drive or disinterest in social interactions. Testimonials and reviews are displayed to provide social proof, showcasing success stories from other users. The side effects of porn and the benefits of quitting are highlighted, reinforcing the app's value proposition. An App Store review request is strategically placed before the paywall to boost App Store optimization (ASO). The paywall emphasizes self-investment and affordability, personalizing the message with the user's name to encourage conversion.

Post-Paywall Experience: Streak Tracking, Community, and Tools

Users are immediately taken to the app features after payment. A streak counter is prominently displayed to motivate users, showing the time they have been sober. Milestone badges for streak achievements and a to-do list encourage feature engagement and retention. The community feature allows peer support and breaking down barriers, with users able to journal their thoughts and engage with others. The "panic button" links to the community or journaling, providing immediate support. The "plant your seed" feature visually tracks streaks, growing from a sapling into a tree as the streak increases. An AI therapist named "Melus" provides personalized advice and support, while a resource page with articles explains porn addiction and its effects.

Why a Hard Paywall Works: Commitment and Perceived Value

A freemium model was tested but resulted in low engagement. Users did not value the app when it was free, leading to a significant drop in activity. In contrast, a hard paywall drives user commitment and higher perceived value. The founders noted that when users pay for something, they value it more, leading to better engagement and retention.

Growth Hacking: Influencer Marketing and Viral Content

Influencer Marketing as a Bootstrapping Strategy

Initial growth strategy focused on influencer marketing. The founders targeted influencers in religious and fitness niches initially, then expanded to self-help. They paid for consulting calls with religious creators to pitch the app, with one successful pitch resulting from a $50 consulting call. Influencers were paid on a CPM basis, aiming for $2-$3 per thousand views. For example, a contract might guarantee 250,000 views per video, with four videos totaling 1 million views for $4,000. The contract structure included a 20% upfront payment, with the remainder paid after contract completion and Apple payout.

Viral Video Impact and Performance-Based Pay

A viral video on TikTok generated $100K in 65 hours, with $40K in sales in a single day. The performance-based pay structure for influencers focuses on those who resonate with the brand and target audience. The founders considered implementing view rewards, paying people retroactively based on every thousand views they get.

Outreach Strategy: Paid Promos and Verified Accounts

Initial outreach was via DMs, consulting calls, and emails. The first outreach message emphasized "paid promo" for higher click-through rates. A verified brand account improved inbox visibility, with the founders noting that verified accounts bump messages higher in the inbox. Payment amounts were not disclosed in initial text messages, preferring calls for negotiation. Niches were targeted based on pain points and value systems, such as religion (porn is against God), fitness (low testosterone, no gains), and self-help (semen retention benefits).

Contractual Agreements and Usage Rights

Contracts included usage rights to repurpose influencer content as ads. View guarantees were incorporated into contracts to ensure performance. For example, a contract might guarantee 500,000 views per month for $1,500, with flexibility to adjust if view guarantees were not met. The founders noted that they could prorate contracts if necessary, paying based on actual views received.

Tech Stack and Design Principles

Minimalist Tech Stack for Rapid Development

The app was developed using Swift for iOS, with ChatGPT assisting in coding and feature implementation. Firebase was used for the backend database and community features, while Figma was used for UI/UX design. Mixpanel was used for onboarding and funnel analytics, and Superwall for paywall A/B testing and management. The founders noted that Superwall allowed them to test different pricing and designs on the fly, monitoring results to optimize conversion.

Design Philosophy: Premium Feel and Simplicity

A black color scheme conveyed a premium product impression. The design was simple, refined, and used good fonts and colors for an enjoyable user experience. The DM Sans Google Font was used throughout the app. The "multiples of four" principle was used for padding and spacing, with text sizes and padding following this rule for a clean UI. The founders emphasized the importance of making everything simple and refined, using good fonts and colors to create an enjoyable experience.

Automation and Team Management Tools

Google Sheets was used for influencer lead tracking, with Fiverr used for finding VAs. The Groy platform was used for influencer management, contracts, and payments. Agree.com was used for contract management, while Zappier automated email sending triggered by Notion contract status. The founders noted that once an influencer signed a contract and it was checked off in Notion, an onboarding email was automatically sent.

Future Growth and Brand Building

Focus on Brand Awareness and Viral Marketing

The strategy shifted towards brand awareness and viral stunts, with inspiration drawn from "Project Liquid Death" for disruptive marketing. The founders considered IRL stunts at porn conventions and provocative social media content, such as a tweet about Quitter purchasing PornHub. They noted that virality is valuable, as demonstrated by a video with Jeremiah that reached $100,000 in a day. The goal was to take risks and build brand association, with a focus on awareness and brand building for long-term scalability.

Expanding Marketing Channels and Partnerships

Influencer marketing was scaled, and CPM-based deals were optimized. Organic content marketing and SEO were expanded, with increased paid ad spend and ROI optimization. The founders explored partnerships with churches and dioceses, as well as larger creators and podcasts like Theo Von and George Janko. They noted the importance of expanding marketing channels and optimizing ROI for sustained growth.

Long-Term Vision: Authority Building and High-Ticket Offers

The aim was to build authority through research studies and scientific validation. High-ticket offers and one-on-one support were considered for the future, with the app planned to be more customizable. The founders noted the importance of involving scientists and neurologists in research studies to build credibility and authority. They also considered the next level of support, such as one-on-one coaching or high-ticket offers, to further monetize the app.

Actionable Advice for Aspiring App Entrepreneurs

Validate with Reddit and Product Hunt

Reddit was used to validate product ideas in niche communities, with Product Hunt used for early user feedback and product rating. The founders noted that Reddit has every sub-niche and community imaginable, making it an ideal platform for validating product ideas. Product Hunt democratizes new product launches, allowing users to rate and review products, providing valuable early feedback.

Test Different Marketing Channels and Iterate

Different marketing channels were tested, including influencers, organic content, and paid ads. The founders emphasized the importance of not relying solely on one marketing channel and tailoring the strategy to the product and niche. They noted that there are multiple ways to market a product, and it is important to keep testing and iterating to find what works best.

Focus on Onboarding and Conversion Optimization First

Onboarding flow was optimized before investing heavily in marketing. The founders studied successful app onboarding flows for inspiration, noting that optimizing onboarding is the single most important thing in consumer apps. They emphasized the importance of studying top-performing apps and replicating their onboarding strategies to improve conversion rates.

Bootstrap Smartly and Prioritize Revenue Generation

The app was bootstrapped with a small initial investment of $3,000, and revenue was reinvested to fuel further growth. The founders noted the importance of turning $1 into $4 and staying bootstrapped as long as possible. They emphasized the difficulty of marketing without initial funding, suggesting that aspiring entrepreneurs should secure some money upfront, whether through savings, gifts, or loans.

Team Up and Don't Go It Alone

A co-founder with complementary skills was essential for the app's success. The founders noted the importance of finding someone good at marketing or product development to share the workload and accelerate growth. They emphasized the challenges of going it alone and the benefits of partnering up, suggesting that Discord is a great place to find potential co-founders.

Action over Perfection and Procrastination

An MVP was launched quickly and iterated based on user feedback. The founders emphasized the importance of taking action and not overcomplicating things. They noted that it is better to launch something good enough and target communities within the niche, rather than waiting for everything to be perfect. Procrastination was avoided, with a focus on continuous improvement and iteration.

Monitor Metrics and Iterate Continuously

Onboarding funnel metrics were tracked using Mixpanel, with paywalls and pricing A/B tested using Superwall. The founders noted the importance of collecting user feedback and implementing changes based on that feedback. They emphasized the need for a system to gather and act on user feedback, continuously improving the product and marketing strategies.

Replicate Success and Study Competitors

Successful distribution strategies from competitor apps were copied, with a focus on leveraging proven strategies. The founders noted the importance of not reinventing the wheel and instead replicating successful tactics from other apps. They emphasized the need to study competitors and adapt their strategies to fit the unique needs of the app and its target audience.

Focus on Value and Solve a Real Problem

A clear pain point was solved, and users were made "problem aware." The founders emphasized the importance of clearly communicating the value proposition in onboarding and marketing. They noted that solving a real problem and making users aware of that problem is crucial for success. The app's features and benefits were highlighted, with a focus on the outcome and instate, rather than the features themselves.

Optimize for Virality and Brand Building

Virality was optimized for, with a focus on creating content that has the potential to go viral. The founders noted the importance of brand building for long-term scalability, with a focus on getting the brand in people's heads. They considered IRL stunts and provocative marketing to increase brand visibility and awareness, emphasizing the need to take risks and think outside the box.

Mobile App Specific Tips

iOS development was focused on first for higher monetization potential, with Android development deprioritized due to lower revenue potential. A "skip account creation" option reduced onboarding friction, with users more likely to convert at the end of the paywall if they create an account. The founders noted the importance of having users' emails for sending updates and discounts, but also emphasized the need for a skip option to avoid deterring potential users. A price point around $10/month or $40/year was aimed for subscriptions, with the founders noting that this is the sweet spot for impulse buys. The app was shown in marketing videos to improve conversion rates, with the founders emphasizing the importance of showcasing the app's features and benefits in marketing materials.

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# How a Porn Addiction App Scaled to $250K MRR in 4 Months

In just four months, a team of young entrepreneurs built a porn addiction app called **Quitter**, scaling it to **$250,000 in monthly recurring revenue (MRR)**. Their journey is a masterclass in identifying market gaps, designing high-converting user experiences, and leveraging influencer marketing for rapid growth. Here’s a deep dive into how they did it, with specific examples and numbers from the transcripts.

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## From Zero to App Idea: Understanding the Genesis of Quitter

### Identifying a High Pain Point in a Normalized Market
The founders recognized that porn addiction is a significant issue, especially with the rise of platforms like OnlyFans. Despite its prevalence, the topic remains taboo, and many men struggle silently. As one founder put it, *"Porn is normalized, no one knows about the side effects."* Men often don’t discuss their addiction openly, with one founder noting, *"You don’t go to your boy and be like, ‘I’m addicted to porn, man, how do you help me?’"*

The team saw a gap in the market for a Gen Z-focused solution. Existing apps like **Covenant Eyes** targeted older demographics (35+), leaving younger users underserved. As one founder explained, *"Covenant Eyes targets a lot of older men. There wasn’t anything for Gen Z. We consume the most OnlyFans stuff, so we built something better."*

### Leveraging Personal Experience and Market Observation
The founders were deeply embedded in the self-improvement space, familiar with concepts like **nofap** and semen retention. They noticed a lack of apps specifically designed to help users quit porn. Competitor analysis revealed **Brain Buddy**, a 14-year-old app with minimal marketing and innovation. As one founder noted, *"Brain Buddy has been in the market for about 14 years, and they have zero marketing efforts. They’ve barely innovated in the last decade."* This gap in the market inspired them to build Quitter.

### Building an MVP: Starting with a Simple Timer and Community
The initial version of Quitter was a simple timer to track **nofap streaks**—how long users had gone without consuming porn. Over time, they added a community feature, allowing users to support each other. Additional tools like **breathing exercises** and a **panic button** were introduced to help users manage urges. The panic button, for example, vibrates the phone to snap users out of temptation and redirects them to the community or journaling features.

One founder explained the evolution of the product: *"It was mainly just a timer at first. Then we leveled it up to be a community so everyone that downloads the app can chat with each other and help each other out."* The app also includes a **"plant your seed"** feature, where users plant a virtual seed that grows into a tree as their streak increases, creating a visual representation of progress.

---

## Onboarding Psychology: Designing a High-Converting User Journey

### Crafting a 12-Page Quiz for Self-Diagnosis and Intent
The onboarding process begins with a **12-page quiz** designed to assess the user’s need for the app. The questions are specific, probing into the user’s addiction patterns and severity. For example, one question asks, *"Has your exposure got more and more twisted in a way?"* Another asks, *"How long have you been addicted?"* This quiz serves as a psychological reinforcer, prompting users to reflect on their behavior and accept the need for change.

The high completion rate of the onboarding flow (99%) indicates its effectiveness. As one founder explained, *"Mixpanel onboarding stats show 99% of people complete the 12-step onboarding flow. No one’s falling off."*

### Symptom Selection, Social Proof, and Value Proposition Before Paywall
After the quiz, users select symptoms they experience, such as **low drive** or **disinterest in relationships**. Testimonials and reviews are displayed to provide social proof, followed by a breakdown of the side effects of porn and the benefits of quitting. The app then requests an App Store review before presenting the paywall, which emphasizes self-investment and affordability.

The paywall is carefully designed to encourage conversion. As one founder described, *"We hit them with a paywall that says, ‘It’s time to invest in yourself.’ Using their name, it’s like, ‘Hey Alex, it’s time to invest in yourself.’ Then we show them the price: $12.99 a month or $20 for a one-time payment."*

### Post-Paywall Experience: Streak Tracking, Community, and Tools
Once users pay, they gain access to features like **streak tracking**, **milestone badges**, and a **to-do list** to encourage engagement. The community feature allows users to support each other, breaking down the stigma around discussing porn addiction. Additional tools, such as a **panic button** and an **AI therapist named Melus**, provide personalized support.

The AI therapist, Melus, is one of the app’s most viral features. As one founder explained, *"Melus is an AI therapist that gives you advice. If there’s no one in the community to help, you can speak to Melus 24/7."*

### Why a Hard Paywall Works: Commitment and Perceived Value
Quitter initially tested a freemium model but found that users were less engaged. Switching to a **hard paywall** increased user commitment and perceived value. As one founder noted, *"We tried freemium, but activity dropped significantly. No one used the app when it was free. Everyone used it when it was a hard paywall."* The team also observed that users who paid were more likely to rate the app highly, reinforcing the value of the hard paywall.

---

## Growth Hacking: Influencer Marketing and Viral Content

### Influencer Marketing as a Bootstrapping Strategy
The team bootstrapped their growth by targeting influencers in **religious** and **fitness** niches. They paid for consulting calls with religious creators to pitch the app, eventually scaling to larger influencers. Contracts included **view guarantees** and **performance-based bonuses**, ensuring a return on investment.

One founder shared their early strategy: *"I paid $50 for a one-on-one consulting call with a religious creator. I pitched him, and he agreed to promote the app. That first video brought in $30,000 in the first month."*

### Viral Video Impact and Performance-Based Pay
A viral TikTok video generated **$100,000 in 65 hours**, demonstrating the power of viral content. The team adopted a **performance-based pay structure**, rewarding influencers based on views and engagement. For example, they paid **Jeremiah**, a creator with 2 million followers, **$3 per 1,000 views**, with bonuses for high-performing videos.

One founder explained the deal structure: *"We pay $3 per 1,000 views, with a guaranteed 1 million views per month. If they hit 500,000 views in one video, we give them a $500 bonus."*

### Outreach Strategy: Paid Promos and Verified Accounts
Initial outreach involved **DMs**, **consulting calls**, and **emails**. The first message emphasized **"paid promo"** to increase click-through rates. Using a **verified brand account** improved inbox visibility, and negotiations were conducted over calls to avoid premature disclosure of payment amounts.

One founder shared their outreach process: *"We DM influencers with the first line saying, ‘Paid promo for you.’ If they have a consulting call option, we pay $50 to hop on a call and pitch them. We don’t disclose payment amounts in text—we save that for the call."*

### Contractual Agreements and Usage Rights
Contracts included **usage rights**, allowing the team to repurpose influencer content as ads. **View guarantees** ensured performance, with flexibility to adjust contracts if targets were not met. For example, if an influencer didn’t hit the guaranteed views, the team would prorate the payment.

One founder explained the contract structure: *"We pay 20% upfront and the rest after they hit the view guarantee. If they don’t hit the views, we prorate the payment. For example, if they hit 700,000 views instead of 1 million, we pay $700 instead of $1,000."*

---

## Tech Stack and Design Principles

### Minimalist Tech Stack for Rapid Development
Quitter’s tech stack includes **Swift** for iOS development, **ChatGPT** for coding assistance, and **Firebase** for backend functionality. **Figma** was used for UI/UX design, while **Mixpanel** tracked onboarding metrics. **Superwall** facilitated paywall A/B testing, enabling rapid iteration.

One founder shared their tech stack: *"We use Swift, ChatGPT, and Firebase. ChatGPT helps us code features we don’t know how to build ourselves. For example, we asked ChatGPT to code the community feature, and it worked perfectly."*

### Design Philosophy: Premium Feel and Simplicity
The app’s **black color scheme** conveys a premium feel, encouraging users to pay for the service. Simple, refined design elements and the **DM Sans Google Font** create an enjoyable user experience. The **"multiples of four"** principle ensures clean, consistent spacing throughout the app.

One founder explained the design approach: *"We use multiples of four for padding and spacing. For example, text size is 12, 16, or 18 pixels, and padding is 8 pixels from the border. This makes the app look clean and polished."*

### Automation and Team Management Tools
**Google Sheets** tracked influencer leads, while **Fiverr** sourced virtual assistants. The **Groy** platform managed influencer contracts and payments, streamlining operations. **Agree.com** handled contract management, and **Zappier** automated email workflows based on contract status in **Notion**.

One founder shared their automation setup: *"We use Groy to manage influencer contracts and payments. Once a contract is signed, Zappier sends an onboarding email automatically. It’s all streamlined."*

---

## Future Growth and Brand Building

### Focus on Brand Awareness and Viral Marketing
The team is shifting focus to **brand awareness** and **viral stunts**, inspired by the success of **Liquid Death**. They are considering provocative marketing tactics, such as **IRL stunts at porn conventions**, to generate buzz and disrupt the market.

One founder shared their vision: *"Imagine going to a porn convention and throwing purple paint everywhere. Purple is our brand color—it’s the opposite of the orange used in the porn industry. It’s a bold move, but it’ll get attention."*

### Expanding Marketing Channels and Partnerships
Quitter plans to scale **influencer marketing**, optimize **paid ads**, and explore **organic content marketing**. Partnerships with **churches** and larger creators, such as **Theo Von** and **George Janko**, are on the horizon to expand reach and credibility.

One founder explained their strategy: *"We’re looking at partnerships with churches and dioceses. We’re also reaching out to bigger creators like Theo Von and George Janko for podcast ads."*

### Long-Term Vision: Authority Building and High-Ticket Offers
The team aims to build authority through **research studies** and **scientific validation**. Future plans include **high-ticket offers** and **one-on-one support**, positioning Quitter as a leader in the porn addiction recovery space.

One founder shared their long-term vision: *"We’re working on research studies with neuroscientists to validate the app’s effectiveness. Once we have that data, we can offer high-ticket coaching and one-on-one support."*

---

## Actionable Advice for Aspiring App Entrepreneurs

### Validate with Reddit and Product Hunt
**Reddit** and **Product Hunt** are valuable platforms for validating product ideas and gathering early user feedback. Testing different marketing channels and iterating based on results is crucial for finding what works.

One founder shared their experience: *"We started with Reddit and Product Hunt. Reddit has every sub-niche you can imagine, so it’s perfect for validation. Product Hunt is great for getting early users and feedback."*

### Focus on Onboarding and Conversion Optimization First
Optimizing the **onboarding flow** is essential before investing heavily in marketing. Studying successful apps and replicating their strategies can provide a solid foundation for growth.

One founder emphasized this point: *"If your onboarding is bad, you’re wasting money on ads. We spent weeks perfecting our onboarding flow, and it’s why we have a 99% completion rate."*

### Bootstrap Smartly and Prioritize Revenue Generation
Bootstrapping with a small initial investment and reinvesting revenue can fuel rapid growth. Staying bootstrapped as long as possible allows for greater control and flexibility.

One founder shared their bootstrapping strategy: *"We started with $3,000 and turned it into $37,000 in the first month. We reinvested everything into marketing and scaled from there."*

### Team Up and Don't Go It Alone
Finding a **co-founder** with complementary skills can accelerate growth and reduce the burden of solo entrepreneurship. Partnerships and collaborations can provide the support needed to navigate challenges.

One founder advised: *"Don’t do this journey alone. Find a co-founder who’s good at marketing if you’re good at product. Take 50% of something big instead of 100% of nothing."*

### Action over Perfection and Procrastination
Launching an **MVP** quickly and iterating based on user feedback is more effective than striving for perfection. Taking action and avoiding procrastination are key to building momentum.

One founder shared their philosophy: *"Just go do it. Don’t overthink it. My first app failed, but I kept going, and now we’re at $250K MRR."*

---

Quitter’s journey from zero to $250K MRR in four months demonstrates the power of identifying a high pain point, designing a compelling user experience, and leveraging influencer marketing for rapid growth. By following these principles, aspiring app entrepreneurs can replicate their success and build impactful products.

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How a Porn Addiction App Scaled to $250K MRR in 4 Months

From Zero to App Idea: Understanding the Genesis of Quitter

Identifying a High Pain Point in a Normalized Market

Porn addiction is a significant issue, especially with the rise of platforms like OnlyFans. The problem is normalized, and many men hesitate to discuss it openly. The founders recognized that men often avoid talking about porn addiction with friends, highlighting a need for discreet solutions. They identified a gap in the market for a Gen Z-focused solution, unlike existing apps targeting older demographics like Covenant Eyes, which primarily serves men aged 35 and up. This insight drove the founders to build an app tailored to the younger generation.

Leveraging Personal Experience and Market Observation

The founders were already involved in the self-improvement space and were aware of the benefits of "nofap" and semen retention. They observed the lack of apps specifically designed for quitting porn and recognized the market gap. Competitor analysis revealed Brain Buddy, but it lacked marketing efforts and innovation despite being in the market for 14 years. This insight drove the founders to build their app, starting with a simple timer for tracking "nofap streaks."

Building an MVP: Starting with a Simple Timer and Community

The initial product was fundamentally a timer for tracking streaks. It evolved to include a community feature for peer support and shared goals. Users could chat with each other and help each other out, fostering a sense of camaraderie. Additional features like breathing exercises and a "panic button" were added. The panic button vibrates the user's phone and reminds them of their goals when they feel tempted, providing immediate support. The app also includes a "plant your seed" feature, where users plant a virtual seed that grows into a tree as their streak increases, creating a visual representation of progress.

Onboarding Psychology: Designing a High-Converting User Journey

Crafting a 12-Page Quiz for Self-Diagnosis and Intent

Onboarding starts with a 12-page quiz to assess the user's need for the app. The questions are "oddly specific" to gauge addiction severity and patterns, such as asking if the user's exposure to porn has become more twisted over time. The quiz acts as a psychological reinforcer, prompting self-reflection and acceptance of the issue. The high completion rate of the onboarding flow (99%) is due to high user intent, as indicated by Mixpanel analytics.

Symptom Selection, Social Proof, and Value Proposition Before Paywall

After the quiz, users select symptoms they experience, such as low drive or disinterest in social interactions. Testimonials and reviews are displayed to provide social proof, showcasing success stories from other users. The side effects of porn and the benefits of quitting are highlighted, reinforcing the app's value proposition. An App Store review request is strategically placed before the paywall to boost App Store optimization (ASO). The paywall emphasizes self-investment and affordability, personalizing the message with the user's name to encourage conversion.

Post-Paywall Experience: Streak Tracking, Community, and Tools

Users are immediately taken to the app features after payment. A streak counter is prominently displayed to motivate users, showing the time they have been sober. Milestone badges for streak achievements and a to-do list encourage feature engagement and retention. The community feature allows peer support and breaking down barriers, with users able to journal their thoughts and engage with others. The "panic button" links to the community or journaling, providing immediate support. The "plant your seed" feature visually tracks streaks, growing from a sapling into a tree as the streak increases. An AI therapist named "Melus" provides personalized advice and support, while a resource page with articles explains porn addiction and its effects.

Why a Hard Paywall Works: Commitment and Perceived Value

A freemium model was tested but resulted in low engagement. Users did not value the app when it was free, leading to a significant drop in activity. In contrast, a hard paywall drives user commitment and higher perceived value. The founders noted that when users pay for something, they value it more, leading to better engagement and retention.

Growth Hacking: Influencer Marketing and Viral Content

Influencer Marketing as a Bootstrapping Strategy

Initial growth strategy focused on influencer marketing. The founders targeted influencers in religious and fitness niches initially, then expanded to self-help. They paid for consulting calls with religious creators to pitch the app, with one successful pitch resulting from a $50 consulting call. Influencers were paid on a CPM basis, aiming for $2-$3 per thousand views. For example, a contract might guarantee 250,000 views per video, with four videos totaling 1 million views for $4,000. The contract structure included a 20% upfront payment, with the remainder paid after contract completion and Apple payout.

Viral Video Impact and Performance-Based Pay

A viral video on TikTok generated $100K in 65 hours, with $40K in sales in a single day. The performance-based pay structure for influencers focuses on those who resonate with the brand and target audience. The founders considered implementing view rewards, paying people retroactively based on every thousand views they get.

Outreach Strategy: Paid Promos and Verified Accounts

Initial outreach was via DMs, consulting calls, and emails. The first outreach message emphasized "paid promo" for higher click-through rates. A verified brand account improved inbox visibility, with the founders noting that verified accounts bump messages higher in the inbox. Payment amounts were not disclosed in initial text messages, preferring calls for negotiation. Niches were targeted based on pain points and value systems, such as religion (porn is against God), fitness (low testosterone, no gains), and self-help (semen retention benefits).

Contractual Agreements and Usage Rights

Contracts included usage rights to repurpose influencer content as ads. View guarantees were incorporated into contracts to ensure performance. For example, a contract might guarantee 500,000 views per month for $1,500, with flexibility to adjust if view guarantees were not met. The founders noted that they could prorate contracts if necessary, paying based on actual views received.

Tech Stack and Design Principles

Minimalist Tech Stack for Rapid Development

The app was developed using Swift for iOS, with ChatGPT assisting in coding and feature implementation. Firebase was used for the backend database and community features, while Figma was used for UI/UX design. Mixpanel was used for onboarding and funnel analytics, and Superwall for paywall A/B testing and management. The founders noted that Superwall allowed them to test different pricing and designs on the fly, monitoring results to optimize conversion.

Design Philosophy: Premium Feel and Simplicity

A black color scheme conveyed a premium product impression. The design was simple, refined, and used good fonts and colors for an enjoyable user experience. The DM Sans Google Font was used throughout the app. The "multiples of four" principle was used for padding and spacing, with text sizes and padding following this rule for a clean UI. The founders emphasized the importance of making everything simple and refined, using good fonts and colors to create an enjoyable experience.

Automation and Team Management Tools

Google Sheets was used for influencer lead tracking, with Fiverr used for finding VAs. The Groy platform was used for influencer management, contracts, and payments. Agree.com was used for contract management, while Zappier automated email sending triggered by Notion contract status. The founders noted that once an influencer signed a contract and it was checked off in Notion, an onboarding email was automatically sent.

Future Growth and Brand Building

Focus on Brand Awareness and Viral Marketing

The strategy shifted towards brand awareness and viral stunts, with inspiration drawn from "Project Liquid Death" for disruptive marketing. The founders considered IRL stunts at porn conventions and provocative social media content, such as a tweet about Quitter purchasing PornHub. They noted that virality is valuable, as demonstrated by a video with Jeremiah that reached $100,000 in a day. The goal was to take risks and build brand association, with a focus on awareness and brand building for long-term scalability.

Expanding Marketing Channels and Partnerships

Influencer marketing was scaled, and CPM-based deals were optimized. Organic content marketing and SEO were expanded, with increased paid ad spend and ROI optimization. The founders explored partnerships with churches and dioceses, as well as larger creators and podcasts like Theo Von and George Janko. They noted the importance of expanding marketing channels and optimizing ROI for sustained growth.

Long-Term Vision: Authority Building and High-Ticket Offers

The aim was to build authority through research studies and scientific validation. High-ticket offers and one-on-one support were considered for the future, with the app planned to be more customizable. The founders noted the importance of involving scientists and neurologists in research studies to build credibility and authority. They also considered the next level of support, such as one-on-one coaching or high-ticket offers, to further monetize the app.

Actionable Advice for Aspiring App Entrepreneurs

Validate with Reddit and Product Hunt

Reddit was used to validate product ideas in niche communities, with Product Hunt used for early user feedback and product rating. The founders noted that Reddit has every sub-niche and community imaginable, making it an ideal platform for validating product ideas. Product Hunt democratizes new product launches, allowing users to rate and review products, providing valuable early feedback.

Test Different Marketing Channels and Iterate

Different marketing channels were tested, including influencers, organic content, and paid ads. The founders emphasized the importance of not relying solely on one marketing channel and tailoring the strategy to the product and niche. They noted that there are multiple ways to market a product, and it is important to keep testing and iterating to find what works best.

Focus on Onboarding and Conversion Optimization First

Onboarding flow was optimized before investing heavily in marketing. The founders studied successful app onboarding flows for inspiration, noting that optimizing onboarding is the single most important thing in consumer apps. They emphasized the importance of studying top-performing apps and replicating their onboarding strategies to improve conversion rates.

Bootstrap Smartly and Prioritize Revenue Generation

The app was bootstrapped with a small initial investment of $3,000, and revenue was reinvested to fuel further growth. The founders noted the importance of turning $1 into $4 and staying bootstrapped as long as possible. They emphasized the difficulty of marketing without initial funding, suggesting that aspiring entrepreneurs should secure some money upfront, whether through savings, gifts, or loans.

Team Up and Don't Go It Alone

A co-founder with complementary skills was essential for the app's success. The founders noted the importance of finding someone good at marketing or product development to share the workload and accelerate growth. They emphasized the challenges of going it alone and the benefits of partnering up, suggesting that Discord is a great place to find potential co-founders.

Action over Perfection and Procrastination

An MVP was launched quickly and iterated based on user feedback. The founders emphasized the importance of taking action and not overcomplicating things. They noted that it is better to launch something good enough and target communities within the niche, rather than waiting for everything to be perfect. Procrastination was avoided, with a focus on continuous improvement and iteration.

Monitor Metrics and Iterate Continuously

Onboarding funnel metrics were tracked using Mixpanel, with paywalls and pricing A/B tested using Superwall. The founders noted the importance of collecting user feedback and implementing changes based on that feedback. They emphasized the need for a system to gather and act on user feedback, continuously improving the product and marketing strategies.

Replicate Success and Study Competitors

Successful distribution strategies from competitor apps were copied, with a focus on leveraging proven strategies. The founders noted the importance of not reinventing the wheel and instead replicating successful tactics from other apps. They emphasized the need to study competitors and adapt their strategies to fit the unique needs of the app and its target audience.

Focus on Value and Solve a Real Problem

A clear pain point was solved, and users were made "problem aware." The founders emphasized the importance of clearly communicating the value proposition in onboarding and marketing. They noted that solving a real problem and making users aware of that problem is crucial for success. The app's features and benefits were highlighted, with a focus on the outcome and instate, rather than the features themselves.

Optimize for Virality and Brand Building

Virality was optimized for, with a focus on creating content that has the potential to go viral. The founders noted the importance of brand building for long-term scalability, with a focus on getting the brand in people's heads. They considered IRL stunts and provocative marketing to increase brand visibility and awareness, emphasizing the need to take risks and think outside the box.

Mobile App Specific Tips

iOS development was focused on first for higher monetization potential, with Android development deprioritized due to lower revenue potential. A "skip account creation" option reduced onboarding friction, with users more likely to convert at the end of the paywall if they create an account. The founders noted the importance of having users' emails for sending updates and discounts, but also emphasized the need for a skip option to avoid deterring potential users. A price point around $10/month or $40/year was aimed for subscriptions, with the founders noting that this is the sweet spot for impulse buys. The app was shown in marketing videos to improve conversion rates, with the founders emphasizing the importance of showcasing the app's features and benefits in marketing materials.

Mar 1, 1:05pm
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How a Porn Addiction App Scaled to $250K MRR in 4 Months

From Zero to App Idea: Understanding the Genesis of Quitter

Identifying a High Pain Point in a Normalized Market

Porn addiction is a significant issue, especially with the rise of platforms like OnlyFans. The problem is normalized, and many men struggle silently. The founders recognized that men often avoid talking about porn addiction with friends, highlighting a need for discreet solutions. They identified a gap in the market for a Gen Z-focused solution, unlike existing apps targeting older demographics like Covenant Eyes, which primarily serves men aged 35 and up. This insight drove the founders to build an app tailored to the younger generation.

Leveraging Personal Experience and Market Observation

The founders were already involved in the self-improvement space and were aware of the benefits of "nofap" and semen retention. They observed the lack of apps specifically designed for quitting porn and recognized the market gap. Competitor analysis revealed Brain Buddy, a 14-year-old app with minimal marketing and innovation. As one founder noted, "Brain Buddy has been in the market for about 14 years, and they have zero marketing efforts. They’ve barely innovated in the last decade." This gap in the market inspired them to build Quitter.

Building an MVP: Starting with a Simple Timer and Community

The initial product was fundamentally a timer for tracking streaks. It evolved to include a community feature for peer support and shared goals. Users could chat with each other and help each other out, fostering a sense of camaraderie. Additional features like breathing exercises and a "panic button" were added. The panic button vibrates the user's phone and reminds them of their goals when they feel tempted, providing immediate support. The app also includes a "plant your seed" feature, where users plant a virtual seed that grows into a tree as their streak increases, creating a visual representation of progress.

Onboarding Psychology: Designing a High-Converting User Journey

Crafting a 12-Page Quiz for Self-Diagnosis and Intent

Onboarding starts with a 12-page quiz to assess the user's need for the app. The questions are "oddly specific" to gauge addiction severity and patterns. Examples of questions include:

  • "Has your exposure got more and more twisted in a way?"
  • "How long have you been addicted?"
  • "When was the last time you watched porn?"
  • "How often do you watch porn?"
  • "Do you feel guilty after watching porn?"
  • "Have you tried to quit before?"
  • "What triggers your urge to watch porn?"
  • "How has porn affected your relationships?"
  • "Do you feel like you need more extreme content over time?"
  • "Have you noticed any physical symptoms from watching porn?"
  • "Do you feel like porn is controlling your life?"
  • "Have you lost interest in other activities because of porn?"

The quiz acts as a psychological reinforcer, prompting self-reflection and acceptance of the issue. The high completion rate of the onboarding flow (99%) is due to high user intent, as indicated by Mixpanel analytics.

Symptom Selection, Social Proof, and Value Proposition Before Paywall

After the quiz, users select symptoms they experience, such as:

  • Low drive
  • Disinterest in relationships
  • Anxiety
  • Depression
  • Fatigue
  • Loss of motivation

Testimonials and reviews are displayed to provide social proof, showcasing success stories from other users. The side effects of porn and the benefits of quitting are highlighted, reinforcing the app's value proposition. An App Store review request is strategically placed before the paywall to boost App Store optimization (ASO). The paywall emphasizes self-investment and affordability, personalizing the message with the user's name to encourage conversion.

Post-Paywall Experience: Streak Tracking, Community, and Tools

Users are immediately taken to the app features after payment. A streak counter is prominently displayed to motivate users, showing the time they have been sober. Milestone badges for streak achievements and a to-do list encourage feature engagement and retention. The community feature allows peer support and breaking down barriers, with users able to journal their thoughts and engage with others. The "panic button" links to the community or journaling, providing immediate support. The "plant your seed" feature visually tracks streaks, growing from a sapling into a tree as the streak increases. An AI therapist named "Melus" provides personalized advice and support, while a resource page with articles explains porn addiction and its effects.

Why a Hard Paywall Works: Commitment and Perceived Value

A freemium model was tested but resulted in low engagement. Users did not value the app when it was free, leading to a significant drop in activity. In contrast, a hard paywall drives user commitment and higher perceived value. The founders noted that when users pay for something, they value it more, leading to better engagement and retention.

Growth Hacking: Influencer Marketing and Viral Content

Influencer Marketing as a Bootstrapping Strategy

Initial growth strategy focused on influencer marketing. The founders targeted influencers in religious and fitness niches initially, then expanded to self-help. They paid for consulting calls with religious creators to pitch the app, with one successful pitch resulting from a $50 consulting call. Influencers were paid on a CPM basis, aiming for $2-$3 per thousand views. For example, a contract might guarantee 250,000 views per video, with four videos totaling 1 million views for $4,000. The contract structure included a 20% upfront payment, with the remainder paid after contract completion and Apple payout.

Viral Video Impact and Performance-Based Pay

A viral video on TikTok generated $100K in 65 hours, with $40K in sales in a single day. The performance-based pay structure for influencers focuses on those who resonate with the brand and target audience. The founders considered implementing view rewards, paying people retroactively based on every thousand views they get.

Outreach Strategy: Paid Promos and Verified Accounts

Initial outreach was via DMs, consulting calls, and emails. The first outreach message emphasized "paid promo" for higher click-through rates. A verified brand account improved inbox visibility, with the founders noting that verified accounts bump messages higher in the inbox. Payment amounts were not disclosed in initial text messages, preferring calls for negotiation. Niches were targeted based on pain points and value systems, such as religion (porn is against God), fitness (low testosterone, no gains), and self-help (semen retention benefits).

Contractual Agreements and Usage Rights

Contracts included usage rights to repurpose influencer content as ads. View guarantees were incorporated into contracts to ensure performance. For example, a contract might guarantee 500,000 views per month for $1,500, with flexibility to adjust if view guarantees were not met. The founders noted that they could prorate contracts if necessary, paying based on actual views received.

Tech Stack and Design Principles

Minimalist Tech Stack for Rapid Development

The app was developed using Swift for iOS, with ChatGPT assisting in coding and feature implementation. Firebase was used for the backend database and community features, while Figma was used for UI/UX design. Mixpanel was used for onboarding and funnel analytics, and Superwall for paywall A/B testing and management. The founders noted that Superwall allowed them to test different pricing and designs on the fly, monitoring results to optimize conversion.

Design Philosophy: Premium Feel and Simplicity

A black color scheme conveyed a premium product impression. The design was simple, refined, and used good fonts and colors for an enjoyable user experience. The DM Sans Google Font was used throughout the app. The "multiples of four" principle was used for padding and spacing, with text sizes and padding following this rule for a clean UI. The founders emphasized the importance of making everything simple and refined, using good fonts and colors to create an enjoyable experience.

Automation and Team Management Tools

Google Sheets was used for influencer lead tracking, with Fiverr used for finding VAs. The Groy platform was used for influencer management, contracts, and payments. Agree.com was used for contract management, while Zappier automated email sending triggered by Notion contract status. The founders noted that once an influencer signed a contract and it was checked off in Notion, an onboarding email was automatically sent.

Future Growth and Brand Building

Focus on Brand Awareness and Viral Marketing

The strategy shifted towards brand awareness and viral stunts, with inspiration drawn from "Project Liquid Death" for disruptive marketing. The founders considered IRL stunts at porn conventions and provocative social media content, such as a tweet about Quitter purchasing PornHub. They noted that virality is valuable, as demonstrated by a video with Jeremiah that reached $100,000 in a day. The goal was to take risks and build brand association, with a focus on awareness and brand building for long-term scalability.

Expanding Marketing Channels and Partnerships

Influencer marketing was scaled, and CPM-based deals were optimized. Organic content marketing and SEO were expanded, with increased paid ad spend and ROI optimization. The founders explored partnerships with churches and dioceses, as well as larger creators and podcasts like Theo Von and George Janko. They noted the importance of expanding marketing channels and optimizing ROI for sustained growth.

Long-Term Vision: Authority Building and High-Ticket Offers

The aim was to build authority through research studies and scientific validation. High-ticket offers and one-on-one support were considered for the future, with the app planned to be more customizable. The founders noted the importance of involving scientists and neurologists in research studies to build credibility and authority. They also considered the next level of support, such as one-on-one coaching or high-ticket offers, to further monetize the app.

Actionable Advice for Aspiring App Entrepreneurs

Validate with Reddit and Product Hunt

Reddit was used to validate product ideas in niche communities, with Product Hunt used for early user feedback and product rating. The founders noted that Reddit has every sub-niche and community imaginable, making it an ideal platform for validating product ideas. Product Hunt democratizes new product launches, allowing users to rate and review products, providing valuable early feedback.

Test Different Marketing Channels and Iterate

Different marketing channels were tested, including influencers, organic content, and paid ads. The founders emphasized the importance of not relying solely on one marketing channel and tailoring the strategy to the product and niche. They noted that there are multiple ways to market a product, and it is important to keep testing and iterating to find what works best.

Focus on Onboarding and Conversion Optimization First

Onboarding flow was optimized before investing heavily in marketing. The founders studied successful app onboarding flows for inspiration, noting that optimizing onboarding is the single most important thing in consumer apps. They emphasized the importance of studying top-performing apps and replicating their onboarding strategies to improve conversion rates.

Bootstrap Smartly and Prioritize Revenue Generation

The app was bootstrapped with a small initial investment of $3,000, and revenue was reinvested to fuel further growth. The founders noted the importance of turning $1 into $4 and staying bootstrapped as long as possible. They emphasized the difficulty of marketing without initial funding, suggesting that aspiring entrepreneurs should secure some money upfront, whether through savings, gifts, or loans.

Team Up and Don't Go It Alone

A co-founder with complementary skills was essential for the app's success. The founders noted the importance of finding someone good at marketing or product development to share the workload and accelerate growth. They emphasized the challenges of going it alone and the benefits of partnering up, suggesting that Discord is a great place to find potential co-founders.

Action over Perfection and Procrastination

An MVP was launched quickly and iterated based on user feedback. The founders emphasized the importance of taking action and not overcomplicating things. They noted that it is better to launch something good enough and target communities within the niche, rather than waiting for everything to be perfect. Procrastination was avoided, with a focus on continuous improvement and iteration.

Monitor Metrics and Iterate Continuously

Onboarding funnel metrics were tracked using Mixpanel, with paywalls and pricing A/B tested using Superwall. The founders noted the importance of collecting user feedback and implementing changes based on that feedback. They emphasized the need for a system to gather and act on user feedback, continuously improving the product and marketing strategies.

Replicate Success and Study Competitors

Successful distribution strategies from competitor apps were copied, with a focus on leveraging proven strategies. The founders noted the importance of not reinventing the wheel and instead replicating successful tactics from other apps. They emphasized the need to study competitors and adapt their strategies to fit the unique needs of the app and its target audience.

Focus on Value and Solve a Real Problem

A clear pain point was solved, and users were made "problem aware." The founders emphasized the importance of clearly communicating the value proposition in onboarding and marketing. They noted that solving a real problem and making users aware of that problem is crucial for success. The app's features and benefits were highlighted, with a focus on the outcome and instate, rather than the features themselves.

Optimize for Virality and Brand Building

Virality was optimized for, with a focus on creating content that has the potential to go viral. The founders noted the importance of brand building for long-term scalability, with a focus on getting the brand in people's heads. They considered IRL stunts and provocative marketing to increase brand visibility and awareness, emphasizing the need to take risks and think outside the box.

Mobile App Specific Tips

iOS development was focused on first for higher monetization potential, with Android development deprioritized due to lower revenue potential. A "skip account creation" option reduced onboarding friction, with users more likely to convert at the end of the paywall if they create an account. The founders noted the importance of having users' emails for sending updates and discounts, but also emphasized the need for a skip option to avoid deterring potential users. A price point around $10/month or $40/year was aimed for subscriptions, with the founders noting that this is the sweet spot for impulse buys. The app was shown in marketing videos to improve conversion rates, with the founders emphasizing the importance of showcasing the app's features and benefits in marketing materials.

Mar 1, 1:14pm

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